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3rd graders trying to kill the teacher

divaballerina's picture

PUULLLEEEAASSE!!! 3rd Graders? I don't buy it.... Would they have killed their teacher? NOWAY!

Are there any teachers here on azmoms that think this could have really happened??? Does anybody think this could have happened?

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Officials in Georgia have thwarted a plot by a group of third-grade special education students to kill their teacher.

Officials at the Center Elementary School in Waycross, Ga., learned of the plot on March 28, when a student told authorities about the plan before the start of the school day, the Waycross Journal-Herald reports.

The plot by as many as nine boys and girls was a serious threat, Waycross Police Chief Tony Tanner said Tuesday.

The students allegedly brought to school a broken steak knife, a roll of duct tape, handcuffs, ribbon and a crystal paperweight in a bid to kill their teacher, Belle Carter, the paper reports.

"We did not hear anybody say they intended to kill her, but could they have accidentally killed her? Absolutely," Tanner said. "We feel like if they weren't interrupted, there would have been an attempt. Would they have been successful? We don't know."

The children, ages 8 and 9, were apparently mad at the teacher because she had scolded one of them for standing on a chair, Tanner said.

"It’s our understanding that she did in fact discipline one of the students, and they did not like it, he told FOX News. "After that, she began to plot revenge on the teacher."

Tanner told FOX News not all of the students were in on all the details of the allegedly plot.

"We believe that some of them knew the entire plot and some of them were ... just asked to bring other items in but they might not have realized the entire plot," he said.

Three of the students have been identified as ringleaders and will likely face prosecution under an unruly charge, because of their age, Tanner told FOX News.

They could be expelled, but a prosecutor said they are too young to be charged with a crime under Georgia law.

School officials spoke with parents about the incident on Monday, the paper said.

Theresa Martin, spokeswoman for the Ware County school system, said nine children had been given discipline up to and including long-term suspension. She would not be more specific. She said none of the children had been back to school since the case came to light.

The alleged target is a veteran educator who teaches third-grade students with a range of learning disabilities, including attention deficit disorder, delayed development and hyperactivity, friends and parents said.

Tanner said the scheme involved a division of roles. One child's job was to cover windows so no one could see outside, he said. Another was supposed to clean up after the attack.

He said the class had not been problematic in the past.

"I don't think that there's been any disciplinary problems that have occurred in that classroom of a substantial nature," he told FOX News.

The parents of the students have cooperated with investigators, who aren't allowed to question the children without their parents' or guardians' consent, he said. Authorities have withheld the children's names.

Police expected to forward the results of their investigation to prosecutors, Tanner said.

Children in Georgia can't be charged with a crime unless they are at least 13, District Attorney Rick Currie said.

Martin, told The Florida Times-Union of Jacksonville, Fla., that administrators would follow school system policy and state law in disciplining the students.

"From what I understand, they were considered pretty good kids," Martin said. "But we have to take this seriously, whether they were serious or not about carrying this through, and that's what we did."

Four mothers of other third-grade students at Center Elementary called for the immediate expulsion of the suspected plotters.

Stacy Carter and Deana Hiott both cited school system policy stating that any student who brings "anything reasonably considered to be a weapon" is to be expelled for at least the remainder of the school year.

"We don't want our children around them," Carter told the Times-Union. "The one with the knife could have stabbed my child or someone else's child at lunch or out on the playground."

"This is an isolated incident, an aberration. ... We have good kids," Center Principal Angie Coleman told the newspaper.

Elizabeth is a discussion leader for arizonamoms she writes about everything from her needing mommy advice to crazy and silly stuff that happens. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and 3 children, Joshua 12, Brooke 2 and Mason 10 months

Did you ever read Lord of

Kindahotmom's picture

Did you ever read Lord of the Flies? I've always thought teachers were brave to be alone in a classroom with any group of kids, let alone with one intent on killing you.



Karina Bland is raising her 9-year-old son in Tempe with a lot of love, humor and support from her friends and family. A longtime journalist covering child welfare and education issues for The Arizona Republic, she blogs about raising good kids.

Lord of the Rings or Lord of

lovemy4's picture

Lord of the Rings or Lord of the Flies? or both... I wouldn't want to teach any trolls, or Piggies ( I might find time for an Elf...) but I digress - God bless our teachers and keep them safe!!!!



Lovemy4 is a discussion leader for North Central Phoenix, tired mother of 4 great kids and wife to one great husband.

So, would you have a problem

differentdrum's picture

So, would you have a problem with your child going back to class with these kids? I know I would. And I do work at different schools and I do believe that kids could pull this off, they obviously knew what to bring.
And if school rules call for expulsion for a weapon and such, then they should be expelled.
At what point to we start holding kids accountable and stop making excuses, just because they are labeled with learning disabilities.



" just my Opinion"

Of course this is possible

arubalime's picture

Of course this is possible for 3rd graders to have such rage and the means to cause harm.



Mom of teenage boys!

Yes, I have to agree, it

just2nomore's picture

Yes, I have to agree, it seems that kids do have strong rage now days. What do we think it stems from? Maybe parents working and not spending time with their children. Not that working is bad, but I feel that when we do this, it is a choice and we do still need to place our children first. It's very sad to read this stuff, but I believe that children are capable of this stuff and parents need to be aware and not make excuses up for them.

Yes, I think this could have

karilouMomof2's picture

Yes, I think this could have happened. No I wouldn't want my children returning with these children in the same classroom. I don't buy into the "because the parents work" excuse. Quality time is what is important. There are plenty of children who have hard lives and don't resort to things like this. There must have been a group mentality to have had it go this far.

Another good lesson for us parents to talk with our children on how to express how they are feeling without involving others or hurting others.



KarilouMomof2 is a discussion leader for arizonamoms.com living in Tempe. Her daughters are 9 and 6.

No I don't think I would

divaballerina's picture

No I don't think I would want my child in a classroom with kids like this but I think it was one girl sort of stirring up trouble...Sure I think a kid with a bad home life with abuse could have anger but I still don't think that child has the capacity to kill someone. But I have never been in a classroom as a teacher so I don't really know either and I have never been around really angry kids either.

I just remember my son when he was in 2nd grade and he and another little boy kept saying to another little boy They were going to cut him to peices. The mom of the little boy that they said this to lived in my neighborhood and she was so upset. I told my son that what he and the little boy said to this onther little boy scared him and that it was bad to say things like that. He just said "ok mom". That mother didn't drop it for the longest time, I thought she over reacted completely. My son and the otehr boy ae not angry little boys by any means... They are happy-go-lucky boys that were 7 yrs old being a little mean and they just needed to be told not to do that and that it was not nice and not to do it again...
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Elizabeth is a discussion leader for arizonamoms she writes about everything from her needing mommy advice to crazy and silly stuff that happens. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and 3 children, Joshua 12, Brooke 2 and Mason 10 months

I am here to tell you from

nwmom0908's picture

I am here to tell you from experience...there are children most certainly capable of killing their teacher.

I have worked with emotionally disabled students and some are severely mentally disabled. There are times through medication changes, home changes, and other uncontrollable circumstances that students are sent to school hallucinating, violent, and just down-right scary. The scariest student I have ever encountered was in first grade-that's right, six years old. Some of you may be thinking that I worked in a private-day school. My experience is from teaching in a public school, self-contained program. While these students did not spend ANY of their time around regular education students, they were still on the same campus.

What scares me about this story is that the principal never discussed the safety precautions that SHOULD be in place on a campus that houses special needs students. My school never had only one person in the room and we all had walkie-talkies to radio for help when needed. We also had security on campus. Luckily one of the students came forward and that teacher is now safe.

What happened?

divaballerina's picture

What happened?



Elizabeth is a discussion leader for arizonamoms she writes about everything from her needing mommy advice to crazy and silly stuff that happens. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and 3 children, Joshua 12, Brooke 2 and Mason 10 months

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