I have noticed that my 11 yr old son is a bit socially awkward with his peers. More than normal for his age... I am always comfortable in groups of people, large or small.. . My ex husband was a little awkward because he was a weirdo... (he doesn't have contact with my son so my son couldn't have got this awkwardness from him)...
So anyway...The weird thing is I took him with some kids from his football team to paintball at the end of the season and I noticed this. The boys ages range from 11 to 15. They were standing in sort of a circle and talking about football. Stats and stuff about the pros. They were all just comfortably talking. When I notice my son was sort of on the outer part of the circle. I watched him move a bit closer with his arms stiff straight down by his sides, he sort of inched up. Almost in the personal space of the other kids. I saw one of the other boys look up at him like "why are right up on me". I have noticed this before but he was just a little kid and I thought he would out grow it. When he was about 5 I would notice how he would stand really close to a friend and talk. I would say stuff like "don't get so close, that is their personal space"...I would use my arms and show him how close to stand... I hadn't noticed it again until now. So I mentioned this to him on the way home from paintball and he listened. I told him to act more comfortable, be less stiff, don't hold your arms straight down, maybe put one in a pocket and my goodness don't get so close to people.. Stand an arms length away... I didn't say it just like that I said it really sweet... He nodded.. I think he was happy I was telling him. I wasn't being critical at all... I think I was being cool. I told my best friend about this and she said that I could have made it worse and given him a complex!!! I could have scared him and made him totally self conscious. Do you think I was being cool or did I make it worse.. be honest!!! I was being really sweet and I totally didn't sound critical at all...
Elizabeth is a discussion leader for arizonamoms she writes about everything from her needing mommy advice to crazy and silly stuff that happens. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and 3 children.



















did you ever take him in for
did you ever take him in for counseling?
" just my Opinion"
We go the 24th.... Thank You
We go the 24th.... Thank You so much!!!
Elizabeth is a discussion leader for arizonamoms she writes about everything from her needing mommy advice to crazy and silly stuff that happens. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and 3 children.
I'm not knocking counseling,
I'm not knocking counseling, but I don't think that's what your son needs. I'd suggest finding him a trustworthy male teenaged babysitter; there are kids in several area high schools (including the Roman Catholic Schools) who need to fulfill community service credits. The point of hiring the babysitter is for the teen to spend his time engaging your son in entertaining activities, and to model appropriate behavior.
I think that you're just fine, but boys relate to one another completely differently than girls do. 11 year-old girls can synthesize advice and apply it; boys aren't at the same cognitive level, and they need to see it to make use of it.
Your best friend isn't right, either. The advice you had for him wasn't offbase; it just, in my opinion, isn't enough for him to modify his behavior to the desired end. Thanks to you, he's motivated to make some changes. With a teen mentor, he can make them and feel better about himself.
First I wanted to address
First I wanted to address the comment you made about his dad.Just because his father isn't in his life doesn't mean he won't have traits like him.So I may take a closer look at that and not disreguard who your son shares his DNA with.
I would also like to say I think it is wonderful that you followed through and made appointment with a therapist.
I can tell from your post you have been worried about your son.Being a parent isn't easy......always questioning yourself!
I think you need to take one thing at a time with your son...don't pile so much on at one time....go to therapy and slowly go from there.......
My son just turned ten, he really doesn't have issues being around other peers...however, I can see he has grown through the years knowing how he is comfortable around his peers.I would back off for now.....let him find his zone.
I think she was asking that
I think she was asking that because of the conversation on another thread....the boy could probably benefit from having a neutral third party to talk to.
Regarding the personal space issue - I don't think it was wrong to mention this to him, but it depends on how you did it....he doesn't sound like he's at ease around other kids. Some people are just socially awkward - I am one of those people, always have been and probably always will be , to some degree. It used to drive my naturally gregarious father crazy - he was always pushing and prodding me to be more like him, smile at people, talk to people - he was the type who could talk to anyone. I'm just not like that, I am more like my mom, very shy and reserved - it takes me a while to warm up to people, and no amount of criticism would change that. Thankfully, my son is nothing like me, he must take after his father or somehow he ended up with my dad's social confidence. There are some things that are just born into people.
A piece of an article on
A piece of an article on CNN.com - I thought this was an interesting article. I actually read it yesterday.
"In one study, researchers at the University of Edinburgh suggest that genes account for about 50% of the variation in people's levels of happiness — the underlying determinant being genetically determined personality traits, like "being sociable, active, stable, hardworking and conscientious," says co-author Timothy Bates. What's more, says Bates, these happiness traits generally come as a package, so that if you have one you're likely to have them all."
To see the complete article :
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1721954,00.html
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All kids are going to make
All kids are going to make social mistakes. Peers will teach your son that he tends to stand too close. The question is, did you jump the gun and not give your son a chance to get these lessons by trial and error? OR...do you sincerely believe that your son isn't able to pick up on the social cues from his peers? Sometimes, just when we're worried most about these things, a few months later, we see that our kids have made the necessary adjustments. But, during those months we can worry a lot. But, if you see a lifelong pattern of your son lagging significantly behind in learning from social cues, then there is therapy available to help teach these skills. These skills come naturally to some, but others have to work at them, but he can learn them. It sounds like your son handled the advice just fine. Maybe you can practice with him? He's probably used to being physically close with you and just needs more peer experience.
"Only a life lived for others, is the life worthwhile" - Albert Einstein
You're getting a lot of
You're getting a lot of great advice. Here's something else to think about: you may want to get his hearing tested. People with hearing problems often stand close to hear better; his hearing may be slightly off, thus the need to stand closer. Also, you could also consider a Big Brother who would provide a good role model.
Karina Bland is raising her 9-year-old son in Tempe with a lot of love, humor and support from her friends and family. A longtime journalist covering child welfare and education issues for The Arizona Republic, she blogs about raising good kids.
I can't believe I have never
I can't believe I have never thought of that. He IS always saying "what" when I tell him something.. I am always saying clean out your ears" But never once have I thought that it could be his hearing.... Does the school test for that? This is his first yr back in public school and I don't think his private school did hearing tests..
Oh, I should have put in the first post that my son has his Dad (step dad since 3 yrs old who adopted him) he has him as a great role model and he has picked up things from him. A lot of stuff is sports related and talking about sports. He can talk to grown ups just fine... He can carry on any conversation about sports b/c he knows more than most adults on that subject. He just stands too close to people sometimes to (I think) be part of the group. You can see he really wants to be a part of what his friends are talking about, he just looks so up tight and nervous... Almost like he is trying WAY to hard... I just want it to come naturally to him...
The counselor I am taking him to is for either ADD or depression which I think it has to be ADD b/c I just don't see how he could be depressed. But then again, that's why I am taking him to a pro b/c I don't know for sure... He is such a great kid!!!
Elizabeth is a discussion leader for arizonamoms she writes about everything from her needing mommy advice to crazy and silly stuff that happens. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and 3 children.