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I am not sure if this is the correct category, but I couldn't find anything better to put it under. Perhaps the fact that there isn't a category for it is encouraging! My family is from RI and we are being transfered to AZ, somewhere in the Phoenix area. As I am doing my research (the move wil be quick) about what we need to know, I am coming across information about scorpions, rattlesnakes, and black widows. I am now really nervous about bringing an infant and a toddler into this environment. My husband says not to worry, but I am not used to these type of pests and am worried! Can anyone tell me anything about these pests and children- do I really have a reason to worry?

Just to put your mind at

shiannasmommy's picture

Just to put your mind at ease, I have lived in the valley for 11 years and I have never seen a scorpion, rattle snake or black widow. I have had friends that have seen them but they live in more rural type areas or are close to the mountains. I think overall they are not any concern, but it is just good to be aware that they are around. I hope this helps.



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I don't live in a rural area

differentdrum's picture

I don't live in a rural area and we have scorpions and black widows, I wouldnt be nervous about it, you just need to be aware of it. Most of the new home built areas have scorpions, cause of the digging of the ground.. A real nice area like So. Tempe has a huge scorpion problem and the homes are 350,000 plus.. Awatukee has problems, Ocotillo, Arrowhead and ect. Most new home areas have the problem with scorpions.
There is also a pesticide called Sidekick that kills scorpions, the reason exterminators dont tell you or use it, is because they want you to have them come back every month.. I spray Sidekick every 3 or 4 months around the perimiter of the house and don't have a problem with scorpions.. But not that it has rained alot I will be spraying this weekend and it will do the job. I have a great fear of being stung by a scorpion.
If you go onto poison control they are ways to keep baby safe, like putting glass cups under each leg of the crib, scorpions can't climb on glass..
black widows are usually only outside and where there maybe junk pilled up like wood and stuff..
rattlesnakes have been found in yards that back the mountains mainly.



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Every place in the country

arubalime's picture

Every place in the country has their unique creatures. Don't worry - we also have neat looking roadrunners (rare but neat!)



Mom of teenage boys!

First, welcome to the valley

santeensmom's picture

First, welcome to the valley when you get here! About scorpions, I have lived out here for going on nine years, and have lived and worked in two places that had them. They are nocturnal and mainly active in the summer. The first couple scare you when you see them, but after that, you realize they squash just as easy as any other bug (and then have your husband clean up the remains -- that's what I did, I could stand seeing them twice). You can have a pest control company spray for them, but keep in mind the poison doesn't kill them, but what they eat so they move on someplace else or starve. Not all new homes have scorpions -- there are areas who have them. I know Las Sendas and the Red Mountain area have them. I also have a new home and no scorpions. I would recommend calling a couple pest control companies and asking if the can tell you hot bed areas to avoid.

I live in an area that my pest guy said has black widows, but the house is sprayed every other month and I don't see anything. (I have an infant and am up at odd hours, so if we had anything I would know). Rattlesnakes, yeah, if you live on the outskirts or next to a mountain preserve, you have a better chance of seeing them. I've only seen them hiking and that was because some nitwick hiker thought it would be great to provoke it (and even with the provoking, the snake still preferred not to bite, but rather slide away).

You could probably ask your real estate agent about hot bed areas too (they know).

There are far worse things to be worried about than these pests, like making sure you didn't pack the favorite toys you plan to travel with.

Best of luck!

Thank you all for your

sunwave's picture

Thank you all for your calming and welcoming words! I feel more educated about the situation, which helps.

We were looking at the southeastern part of Phoenix due to my husband's work travel (mostly to Tucson), but maybe we also like the look of the southwest too- Goodyear, etc. Is it a much further drive from the west to Tucson- it's hard to tell on the map.

And I hate to sound ignorant, but what is considered the "valley"?

I'll let someone who has

GopherGirl's picture

I'll let someone who has lived hear longer answer about the valley's boundaries, but I can speak to your Goodyear to Tucson question. If it's a regular trip for him, I would advise against Goodyear. We live in Goodyear and my husband has had to go to Tucson as often as twice a week and it's a terrible commute. It would add 30 - 40 minutes to the drive as opposed to somewhere southeast. We would have looked at houses further southeast on 10 if we'd known at the time we moved.

We moved from Minnesota in June, and I, too, was PARANOID about these pests, but once you get settled in you completely forget about them. Good luck with your move!



GopherGirl is a discussion follower. She lives in the West Valley with her husband and two boys, ages 4 and 2.

The valley is stretches

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The valley is stretches around 75 miles from Buckeye in the far west to Gold Canyon in the far east and about 56 miles from Anthem in the north down to Sun Lakes in the south.

Here is a map that may help you become more familiar with locations of cities. The roads are no longer accurate as more have been added, but you can get an idea.

http://www.arizona-leisure.com/greater-phoenix-map-760.html

Also, you will hear people say they live in the west valley, east valley, northeast valley, etc. Phoenix is the center of the valley. If someone says they live in the east valley, then they live East of Phoenix. The Northeast Valley, they live Northeast of Phoenix. I remember it feeling pretty intiminidating when I first moved here, but now think nothing of it and am amazed at the growth. I remember driving by a corn field nine years ago and now my house sits on it.

Is your husbands job actually in Phoenix? As far as property values, the west valley (such as Buckeye) are getting hit pretty hard with the housing market. There was an article on azcentral about it.

I always tell people who are coming to the valley either to visit or to stay, invest in lotion. Being on the East coast, your skin is use to humidity and there are days out here when we have negative humidity. Make sure you use it once you get out here, your skin will thank you.

Feel free to ask any valley questions you want. I'm sure someone on here can help you get an answer.

First of all, Welcome!! I

luvmylilangels's picture

First of all, Welcome!! I have been living here in az for about 14yrs and have never been across any of these creatures, don't worry about it too much...



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Well, the builders did

myseashell's picture

Well, the builders did invade their habitat so don't be surprised if you run into one :) But I think that if you live close to a mountain or out in the desert then you will see them occasionally. We haven't run into one yet(knock on wood) and we've been at our home for 7 years.

It is not that big of a

Katy1999's picture

It is not that big of a deal.....I have been stung twice.
I had an apartment in Tempe that was full of them, and we had an apartment in Ahwatukee that had a scorpion problem, too....they usually show up in areas close to a mountain preserve or areas just recently developed.The tempe area has a huge problem with them....legend has it that some years ago there was an ASU research project that involved scorpions, but lost funding and they released them into what was at that time undeveloped desert...hence the birth of the Tempe "scorpion alley" area.
We got a cat when we were living in Ahwatukee and the cat seemed to take care of the scorpion problem......they can hunt them very efficiently. My husband has an aunt that lives in Ahwatukee and they put their baby's crib legs on glass jars to keep the scorpions from crawling up there. Once they get into a structure, it is very hard to get rid of them.....but we have been living in the same home in Gilbert for 10 years and haven't seen a solitary one....good luck.

My husband and i had our

me's picture

My husband and i had our house sealed up by a professional and we've had a monthly exterminator that visits. Knock on wood - we don't see any creatures. The exterminator sprays out doors once a month.

We feel safer, haven't seen any creatures....but we are always aware to keep our eyes peeled.

For us, it's money well spent.



The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge.
~ Elbert Hubbard (1856 - 1915)

We have scorpions because we

hobbymommy's picture

We have scorpions because we live in a former citrus grove and we have flood irrigation. (The yards are watered by flooding them from a pipe in the ground - something I'd never seen till I lived here!) I did some research though, and no one has been killed by a scorpion since the 60s. My 2-year-old was stung once, and we took her to the ER. Nothing happened, they checked her out and sent us home. So, as a former midwesterner, they were new to me too, but I don't see them often, and the ones I have are only about an inch long. You'll be OK, really. :-)



Hobbymommy, 38, is a discussion leader from Mesa. She is a happy stay-at-home mommy to a 3-year-old daughter and a 2-year-old son.

I was born in Phoenix and

twinsmom's picture

I was born in Phoenix and have lived here my entire life (almost 32 years). I have never seen a scorpion. Three years ago we moved to a newly built home in Surprise (far west valley) and I have yet to a see a scorpion, although I have had neighbors mention they've seen them. I have, however, seen black widows. This past summer we actually had a lot of them. I was nervous too because I was pregnant. They never ventured inside the house, but we had a lot of them outside in the bushes and under patio furniture. The area we live in still has a lot of undeveloped desert and farmland. We have our house sprayed once a month but that does little to help with spiders. Before we moved out here I had never seen a black widow either. The only reason you might have a run in with those types of critters is if you buy a house in a rural area or near the mountains like someone else mentioned. Even then, I woudn't worry about it.

When our next door neighbors

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When our next door neighbors moved in, the wife saw a scorpion, panicked, and called an exterminator. They sprayed and all the scorpions and cockroaches came to our house to die! LOL!

Scorpions are no biggie. They have no interest in you. They'll scurry away from you as fast as they can and won't sting unless they feel provoked. I don't know anyone who's ever been stung. The cockroaches actually freak me out much more (I think the fact that they fly is creepy).

Science project: scorpions glow green under a blacklight (ultraviolet) light. They're actually really pretty. It's a fun thing to do on summer nights. Also, they're really easy to catch. Take a glass (they can't climb the smooth glass), and pop it over the top of the scorpion when you see it trying to scurry away. then slide a piece of cardboard under the glass (those advertisement postcards you get in the mail work well because they're thin but stiff), and lift the glass and card, and flip over so the scorpion is in the bottom. You can feed them crickets and give them a little bit of water, and they'll stay alive for a long time. or you can just take them to your nearest green area and release then (this it what I do, although my husband did keep and feed one for about a month, named it Scorpio, before finally releasing it)

We lived in our house 10

Sandi's picture

We lived in our house 10 years before we saw our first scorpion. I was turning our bed down. Took off the two pillows to pull the comfortor down and there he was under the last pillow. I screamed and my husband thought I was having a heart attack. We found a few more dead ones, but we think our cat brought them in. We spray the outside of our house every month. We took the palm trees out of our backyard because they are attracted to live there.



Sandi is a discussion leader for the East Valley. She lives in Chandler with her husband and 10 year old daughter that thinks she is 15.

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