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Another Puppy with Parvo from Marlyns Kennel breeder still denies there is a Parvo problem

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. I bought a puppy that got Parvo after having him for only 4 days.. He was purchased from an AKC breeder in Phoenix. coming from a AKC Poodle and AKC Maltese for a Malti Poo..At 9 weeks he got the disease, he had received 2 vaccinations from the breeder which we have been told are suppose to only be given by a vet.
I know our dogs are not a recognized AKC breed, he does show you the AKC parents, of your missed breed pup. That brought an interesting question to mind , how can a AKC Kennel, show these dogs in "Shows" yet inter breed and sell mixed bred litters, from these SHOW dogs, does that not go against the AKC Mission statement?
Our pup did survive, but was in the hospital for 10 days to the tune of 7, 500.00. He was such a fighter we would not fail him as the breeder already had. We learned that another pup from his litter, a brother got Parvo and he was euthanized in 4 days , as the family could no longer afford any further care. This puppy also had Roundworm which he was expelling as well. Would Wicket had survived if he did not also have a internal parasite, on top of Parvo ? We have been made aware of yet another dog whom came from this same breeder, who had 4 different parasites in his intestines, although this pup did survive he was very ill and in the hospital. Yet he was supposedly given vaccines and de worming by Mark Robinson also. This dog was not a Mixed breed but one of His AKC pups.
We have spoke to the breeder numerous times and each time he denied that any of the other litter mates had contacted the disease, he actually went as far as to tell us on 3 different occasions that he had contacted the other owners to ensure all other puppies were healthy and he claimed they were those dates were. 3/24/08. 3/26/08.3/28/08,4/2/08 and 5/8/08. ( he was not aware we know the other parties. ) His comments were that we were stupid to spend that much money on a dog, we should have put him down and he would have given us a new puppy from another litter. The other answer was that we should have taken him to his vet, as it would have been less expensive.. This is the same vet I did speak with, whom informed me that they sell Mr. Robinson the injections to inject himself, one of which is to only be administered by a vet, yet Mr. Robinson does claim to have been a RN so possibly in his mind that gives him a Vetinariary degree) that he does all his own grooming and that they had never seen the litter.
He told the first owner who picked her dog up on 3/17/08 it was the last of the litter, then on 3/18/08,when we picked up our pup, we were told our dog was the last of the litter.. Miraculously after the brother was put to sleep on 3/26/08 the owner was offered yet another male puppy which he too was the last of this litter. How many puppies are in that litter ?
We contacted the breeder on 3/24/08 to advise him of our puppy being hospitalized with Parvo on 3/23/08.. The reason, we believed he had the puppies at various places and wanted to ensure that he would warn others, we did believe that he had them at a vet's office as well as a grooming establishment and to warn his littermates of his fate. The response was that Parvo takes 48 hours to manifest itself and that we had exposed him to something ourselves.( Lack of concern, point the finger away from him)
He was also notified on 3/24/08 that our pup's brother was now hospitalized with Roundworm and Parvo and again nothing stating that our pup a littermate also had Parvo.She was told she too, must have exposed her pup to Parvo. He did tell us both he felt horrible and to keep him informed on what the outcome was as he was not in the business of paying vet bills but he wanted to make it right. ( Although he could or would not tell either of us about the other) On 3/26/08 he again was contacted from the other owner that her dog was put to sleep, again no mention of our situation. On 3/28/08 I spoke with Mark again and no mention of his brother dying from Parvo nor of his promise to give the other owner a new pup.. ( the again last one ). On 5/8/08 my husband spoke with Mark Robinson, again he denied that there were any other ill puppies from the litter, but my husband replied, did I not see an article in the paper and mentioned the other dogs name and that was the first time he acknowledged there was another case. Our hope is to get this story out and it may very well come out, that all puppies from that litter had contacted the disease and possible perished as it is a horrific disease and extremely expensive.
I spoke to 5 different vets as well as the two manufactures of the vaccines or dogs were given .. The incubation period for Parvo is usually 10 to 14 days, although one of them said 7 to 10 days.. His own vet, I spoke with and his response was that it takes two weeks. He also said if two of the pups had Parvo so close together then there was a huge chance that all the puppies did get the disease. On or about 4/4/08, the other owner did go back out there to get yet another pup, it was during that time that while Mark was talking to her young son he mentioned that one other puppy had also got Parvo but he was in the hospital and was now fine.. What I do know is that Mark had not spoke with me nor my husband since the 28th of March so he did not know for certain if our dog survived or not so I have no idea if he were referring to yet another puppy. Now this last puppy was taken immediately to a vet and a Parvo test was done as well as a Parasite test and both did come back as negative The last I heard was that the puppy was doing fine and her son was finally happy. He again told my husband, on 5/8/08 that the Parvo situation as our puppy was the only one with the disease, that it was not his problem and we would probably Spend at least that much money on an attorney to sue him if we chose to… To bring it on.. Where the exact words.
Now in our minds those are evil words and this is not a person who even has a clue as to what AKC stands for or cares even a single ounce if these dogs are healthy, happy or alive.. Which totally sickens us to no end… While some may say, we only had the pup for a few days, that we should have not been that attached, we are not in the habit of disposing of a animal that we have made a commitment to bring into our home and family and to just give up on him and have a white coated person with a syringe on a cold metal table end his life, the breeder may feel like that but we can not. Animals deserve a chance just like everything else in our lives. I am not complaining of the funds we invested as the hospital he was in, truly went above and beyond and this little 3 and half pound puppy, gave it his all , he showed he had it in him to survive and wants to be here and we love him to death. He will live out his entire life with us, healthy, happy and very well cared for. My feelings are , he was just a baby and the breeder, whom obviously is only worried about how much money a puppy will bring him, should not be allowed to continue in this fashion and something needs to be done, if its an educational issue then we need to see to it that Mark Robinson is given that education, if its just short of yet another Puppy Mill which is what I feel it is the it must be stopped. The first human our pup ever dealt with was Mark Robinson and he let him down and we are and were the second humans he will ever deal with and we will never let him down, as long as he has it in him and is of sound mind and we can keep him and happy that’s our commitment to Guinness as well as all our other pets.
We are avid dog people and we own four for dogs ourselves and yes all are AKC animals although we have never raised a litter ourselves, mostly because I would want to keep them all. The puppy was actually purchased by our 21 year old daughter.. She got married, in March moved in her new home on March 15 and bought her new puppy on March 18..then the unthinkable happened on March 22 he developed a most often fatal disease. The reason its become my problem is she and her new husband could not afford financially nor mentally to deal with this ill puppy as they were only married in early March and were ecstatic to start their lives together and then they were able to purchase ( Their Son ) When my husband called Mark Robinson on 5/8/08 and told him who he was calling about, first thing Mr. Robinson said was why are you calling, my husband's response was because I have financed this entire roller coaster ride.
There was an additional expense for us for over 600.00 as we took all four of our dogs to the vet after Guinness came down with Parvo, to ensure they did not have Parvo or any intestine parasites. Thank God they were a few days of some loose bowels for the Dachshund, she is the youngest just over a year, but we did put her on an antibiotic also. There are some things we have done or will be doing but I want this situation looked into and a stop put on this type of backyard breeding going on and utilizing the AKC name for credentials yet not living up to anything the group stands for…He did tell me 3 years ago he had a Show Poodle whom came home from a Dog Show with Parvo and had to be put down… God I pray that Parvo truly is not that frequent in the dog shows as it truly is a horrific and extremely painful disease that causes these poor animals to shed their intestines. We would appreciate that a follow up be done on this kennel to ensure that no other animals or owners will have to go through this heartbreaking situation..
His words to us were bring it on, I guess not expecting a person to not blinking an eye at spending money to make things right on behalf of animals that have no voice or rights for their welfare. If a AKC Breeder will not protect and care for the things he made a commitment to then we will. He also stated he has been in the business for like 50 years how could that have happened does anybody think its wrong to dispose of animals like trash if they get sick and just replace them with another cute fluffy and hopefully healthy puppy ? Our understanding is in order to clear out Parvo, he will need to cease breeding and raising puppies for at least a year. I would really like to see this happen to clean it up.. What about the poor unsuspecting folks that left their dogs to be groomed our boarded have they contacted Parvo too ??
We are told that the older dogs just get a flu like disease and that's not near as serious but for puppies and older dogs it many times is fatal. Our pup will have a weakened immune system since contacting the disease and it will be something we will deal with throughout his lifetime. May be due to the numerous blood transfusions and plasma transfusions he endured. Guinness has been home just over a month now and he no longer is having to go to his weekly vet visits, he is doing great and gaining weight and sassy as can be… He is a keeper and a very happy puppy who " Got it going from the Get Go, especially due to his difficult start "
Sorry for the length , we have all the back up records for the things discussed above including the information on the two other animal owners. We also have a 27 page medical report of Guinness treatments at the hospital he was at and the information that the breeder gave us originally.
Interesting the Warranty that the breeder quotes is the puppy is healthy here are his shots and parasite deworming information, although Guinness appears to have been changed or altered by the breeder, he guarantees them for two years if you provide proof that you had the animal Neutered ??? Exactly what that means is unclear other then for some sick way Mark Robinson feels if folks have their pets neutered then it leaves him additional victims to behold. When Guinness is given a n ok he will be neutered but not for Mr. Robinson's warranty but for his own health and to avoid any possibility of him mating and possibly passing on a any weak offspring based on hi previous health issues. As far as the warranty would he have them same answer have the pet euthanized and he will supply another puppy ????

This is the same Breeder that Karina Bland's Puppy Sawyer came from they were brothers, but Gunniess did survive.

I know you can purchase some

momto1lil1's picture

I know you can purchase some vaccines and administer them yourself, but is Parvo one of them? You might contact the Arizona Board of Veternarian's to see about this. It doesn't matter whether the breeder was previously an RN, if he doesn't have a license to practive veterninary medicine and it's not legal for the vet to be selling the vaccine to the public then that would be a red flag!!

Another thing that sends a red flag after reading what you wrote is the fact that this guys seems to have an awful lot of puppies from the same parents. This is typical puppy mill practice. From what I've researched ideally a dog should only be bred once a year. It seems a little ironic that this guy has had many of the "last one in the litter" from what you posted. I'm wondering if this breeder happens to fall under the category of "Backyard Breeder". Even backyard breeders can render immaculate conditions for their dogs/puppies, but be breeding dogs at such a rate that it causes health problems in their litters.

It sounds like this guy might warrant further investigating to see what's really going on. It's goes beyond ironic when his puppies continue to encounter cases of parvo.

Hi, Thanks for your kind

dhicks's picture

Hi,
Thanks for your kind words, Yes you are correct you are able to purchase the vaccine, I guess numerous places, I can not recall for sure but I remember in the past seeing like at Target or Walmart signs stating that. The shots are often referred to like a 5 in one and or a 7 in one which would include ,Parvo, distemper ETC I assume similar to our own babies shots MMR. Mumps, measles and rubella. The shots that our pups were suppose to have recieved were individual ones with actual peel off labels, that we were given on his record sheets,
but according to the manufacture of the drugs they are sold to and are to be adminstered only by vets. Just another question we have.

Thanks for your comments and we are diffently following up with all avenues, as it is not right what happened to our pups and who else could it happen to..

More to come, I am sure.

Debbie

I honestly never ever trust

Lavender_Sea's picture

I honestly never ever trust breeders to do the vaccinations. If they have them they would give you a special form that says who they were administered by. When I got my dog at a rescue they gave me a paper saying where it was administered and what it was etc. Parvo is highly contageous amongst dogs in a small enclosed area. Pounds, rescues, where ever. I always take my dogs to the vet after I get them from anywhere where they would do a parvo test on the spot (stool sample), and also listen for kennel cough something else that is contageous. I'm so sorry that this happened to you.



Lisa - Mom to her spunky little Scarlette

Hi , Thanks for your

dhicks's picture

Hi ,
Thanks for your response, I did get a form and the actual labels basically of each shot. describing the manufacture, a lot number and am expiration date. In fact The other Pup's and mine were exactly the same.. That is why I truly believe this breeder has the disease at the kennel.. I have been told that it takes about a year after a very though cleaning with ( Bleach/water ) to actually feel some what safe to bring in another puppy.. Thanks for your very kind words and I am very happy to hear that many folks are aware and familar with Parvo.. I was just a fortunate one, that has always been blessed to follow the rules with my animals visit vets regularly and never have experienced a major illness until now..
I do recall having puppies and foolishly taking them to Pets mart right after picking them up, to buy the toys and collars and beds ETC and privately bragging just a bit.. I should count my lucky stores now of them ever recieved any diseases. Have a Wonderful Week and Hug Scarlette.

Thx Debbie

After reading your complaint

numbr1mom's picture

After reading your complaint I found several things that can not possibly be true and wonder how much of this article is fabrication. Honestly, I do not even know why I am wasting my time to respond to this fairy tale. First of all, how much homework did you do prior to purchasing the puppy? It does not seem you did any at all. Would you have done the same if you were purchasing, lets say, a car? Or a Coach bag? Lets start off this way. It took me about 15 minutes of punching keys on my laptop do get all the information I would need to make an educated decision. One, clearly, you do not know how to make. I was able to find an AKC Compliance Report that is current, and has been current, for the last 10 years. I was able to find a kennel permit for the property from Maricopa County for the past several years. It is accurate, and factual, to say that this kennel abides by all guidelines set forth to have such an establishment. AKC mission statement? Did you even know this statement existed before you set out on your witch hunt? I doubt it. Lets see what else. Many kennels do have buisness agreements with vets to give discounts on services for puppies purchased from said breeder. This is not, at all, uncommon.
As far as vaccinations. You do not have to be a vet or vet tech to give 4 in 1 vaccinations or 7 in 1 vaccinations. You can also find this out through the state vet. Oh, I found that on-line as well. Now lets talk about Parvo. 2 - 3 days is the common norm for incubation. Not 5 - 10 days and not 2 weeks. Once again information found online from a "reputable" source not Petsmartor hole in the wall vet. Did you also know there is a new form of Parvo named type 2C. This was discovered in Italy in 2000. It has spread worldwide. There is no cure, vaccination, etc., for this form of Parvo. Also, your "understanding" of how to get rid of parvo is outlandish. Example....Humane Society, Animal Control, etc., when a parvo dog comes in and is held before treatment or euthanization in a holding area do you really think that now that area is off limits for a year? Be realistic. The area is scrubbed, bleached, and aloud to dry. After that the kennel is reused. Parvo is also a "seasonal" issue in Arizona, especially in the desert area. The disease is more pronounced in the spring. Do you know why? Sorry, I have already educated you enough. You can find out these answers yourself if you take the time to investigate. One more thing before I depart after wasting my time. Your letter of complaint, I think, is beyond slanderish. If Mr. Robinson so wishes, I believe, he could file suit against you for slander of him, and his buisness. and more than likely win. I have read comments from other responding to your complaint and lets just say...If you did not like the way the kennel looked, or you had any doubts, or you came totally unprepared by not doing your own homework, well then shame on you. I also understand these complaints are often written by people who have absolutely zero idea how things operate outside of their "House in the Hills" and their "BMW" As I said before, get educated.

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